Apparently using warnings and strict is important. What's wrong with C< print "got here" if ($debug);> rjbs: well, the extra parens? nothing but you have more power in the debugger useful to have Term::Readline, of course or there are lots of IDEs FIRST SEVEN ESSENTIAL COMMANDS rjbs: too many commands for one slide! s - single step, next line, step into subs n - same, step OVER subs r - non-stop until current sub's return ... changed slide before I could finish font hell: term was too small-fonted, too long time to change. note to self: always check font sizes on terms if they will be used x - display var value apparently lexicality matters? unclear, but he had to correct a lexicality-related error c - continue (possibly until given line# or sub) a - set an action -- perform given code at given line number a linenumber code talk didn't get much further. basically ran out of steam, ended.